@kdazrael
shhhhhh I want to continue this but long tumblr threads are grossOk, ok, this thread is getting ridiculously long but I still have a millionty-one things to ponder. I do think a lot about what it was like to grow up in the unknown regions, probably in some kind of hollow shell of post-Imperial culture (like, there are still military academies, but no-one is really sure what they’re training these kids for anymore except to reflect some past glory). And all the planets are shitty and only barely livable for humans (my headcanon is that Hux hates being on a planet because 1) stuck in an orbit and can blow up; 2) full of sand and shitty fauna, not sleek and hermetically sealed like his lovely destroyer; 3) gingers and sunlight are not friends).
Other main ponderable: who funds the First Order? I think it’s a combination of revenue streams: 1) stuff they mine/steal from vulnerable planets in the outer rim/unknown regions; 2) dodgy deals with smugglers and other galactic scumbags (protection rackets maybe? Brendol is especially disappointed about this) 3) support from wealthy crypto-Empire families in the Core.
So I’m just gonna screech incoherently and roll around for a while okay because I HAVE SO MANY FIRST ORDER FEELINGS HELP
*continues to run around in an
excited tizzy, bouncing off walls*“the fuck-offers are like 90% of
the military, plus anyone who might have a few little things that could be
considered war crimes and/or genocide in their background.”YES. IIRC, the First Order were sort of
extrapolated out of a ‘what if the Nazis had really set up shop in Latin
America post-WWII?’ scenario, so this rings
very true. I’m really fascinated by what happens to ‘culture’ when all that’s
left of your top tiers of society is the military dudes (and none of the
politicians, lawyers, academics etc). A really fucked up world view, that’s
what.Now look here – why did you give me all these feels? I don’t
know what to do with them! Oh God, there are like a whole bunch of stories I
feel suddenly compelled to write, including but not limited to:–
Hux’s weird eating habits that he is super
self-conscious about.–
Hux giving a speech about how much he hates
sand, and Ren being like ‘OMG, just like my grandpa!’ ❤–
Fucking boarding school in the Unknown Regions
that is St Trinians but worse.–
Hux and Ren go glad-handing in the Core Worlds.
Ren has to wear an outfit he objects to and have his hair tamed in some
humiliating way. He cottons on to the fact that Hux is ‘not quite the thing,
old boy’ in the eyes of Core-dwellers (his accent is not quite right. He doesn’t
know that [insert dish name] is meant to be served cold). Ren wants to destroy
all these rich fuck-bags with extreme prejudice.–
The great Outer Rimian novel, encompassing
themes of class struggle and colonial exploitation; the erasure of resources
and identities. I’m calling it The Grapes of Hoth.If I’m honest, I probably won’t get round to that last one.
One last headcanon before I disappear off into the night,
cackling maniacally: Hux is not a good conversationalist. He is very good at
speeches (even extemporised ones), is very persuasive when he wants to bring
someone around to his plan, and can communicate clearly in a professional
setting. However, he is painfully conscious of the fact that he is not good at no-stakes
shooting the shit. Brendol was a true extrovert and charmer who was never
really ‘off’. Hux Jr. is a grumpy introvert and sees casual conversation as a
waste of his time and mental energy.marry me pls
and now I have a serious problem and it’s “Ren objecting to the way ex-Imperials in the Core treat Hux” sfkljsfdljksfdklj he corners Hux one evening like “do you know what they’re saying about you????” and of course Hux does, or he can certainly guess because this is not exactly new for him, and Ren is just infuriated that not only is this happening but Hux allows it to happen
(he has strong feelings about this, inappropriately strong–there was once a boy named Ben who was the unfortunate result of a dalliance between a princess and a pirate, who gleaned that picture of himself from enough of the politicians he met that his mother eventually gave up on introducing him altogether because of his surliness)
… and then Hux takes over the galaxy and has them all executed, Vanellope von Schweetz-styleI MEAN UH
Tag: meta
@kdazrael
shhhhhh I want to continue this but long tumblr threads are grossOk, ok, this thread is getting ridiculously long but I still have a millionty-one things to ponder. I do think a lot about what it was like to grow up in the unknown regions, probably in some kind of hollow shell of post-Imperial culture (like, there are still military academies, but no-one is really sure what they’re training these kids for anymore except to reflect some past glory). And all the planets are shitty and only barely livable for humans (my headcanon is that Hux hates being on a planet because 1) stuck in an orbit and can blow up; 2) full of sand and shitty fauna, not sleek and hermetically sealed like his lovely destroyer; 3) gingers and sunlight are not friends).
Other main ponderable: who funds the First Order? I think it’s a combination of revenue streams: 1) stuff they mine/steal from vulnerable planets in the outer rim/unknown regions; 2) dodgy deals with smugglers and other galactic scumbags (protection rackets maybe? Brendol is especially disappointed about this) 3) support from wealthy crypto-Empire families in the Core.
So I’m just gonna screech incoherently and roll around for a while okay because I HAVE SO MANY FIRST ORDER FEELINGS HELP
ok every time I saw hux’s first scene in the cinema I was like, hmm, about his facial expression but now I’ve had the opportunity to watch it repeatedly in HD gif form (thank you tumblr) I have Thoughts and here they are.
When he says, “if it’s on Jakku, we’ll soon have it” is he SMILING at Ren?? Or attempting to? He’s pleased they’ve got the information and confident they’re going to get shit done, and can’t keep it off his face. He says *we’ll* soon have it and maybe he assumes he and Ren will share some sort of prissy-fascist equivalent of a high five over it, like a bonding moment, but Ren’s just, “I leave that to you” and stalks off. Hux’s face DOES A THING, like, wow that was a mistake please let me die. I have done that face when I said something that assumed some sort of connection or mutual understanding or level of friendship but totally misjudged it. I feel your pain, Hux.
So now I’m constructing this elaborate headcanon where Hux was making the effort in this scene and got embarrassed when Ren didn’t respond and that set the tone for the rest of their relationship in the film. And also, because Hux and I are terrible people, the added dimension that Hux been waiting outside while Ren tortured Poe – and I wonder whose call that was – so maybe he was getting a bit carried away imagining it all and the evilboner lowered his defences to the point where he accidentally said something bordering on praise or camaraderie or terrified-socially-awkward flirting.
Good morning, I think too much about General Hux before breakfast.
No yeah I think you’re dead on, that’s honestly what kind of set the tone for their interactions for me was this moment where Hux is briefly like “good job, buddy! we’ll just pop the Finalizer on over to–” and Ren’s like “Yeah go do your job”
and we see Hux lookin kinda crushed tbh, like “oh god was that desperate? that was desperate oh fuck someone throw me out the airlock. oh fuck. ohhhh fuck.”
YES YES EXACTLY. Ren, you’re so mean. He’s been standing awkwardly out in that corridor for hours working up to this. Give him a break.
Concept: Hux has been living on he Finalizer a very long time, and is essentially sensory deprived, finding Kylo to be rich in textures: . He wears gloves for at least 10 hours a day, every day. He has done for over a decade. Two,if he’s honest with himself. Most days, nearly everything he touches is metal, plastic, glass, smooth and unyielding. Kylo is… Soft. But not just soft. Kylo has more texture than Hux gathers he has encountered his whole life. His cape is soft and frayed at the edges. His skin is soft and smooth and almost imperceptibly damp. His hair is thick but silky. And Hux can’t get enough. It’s not possible for Hux to be touching Kylo at all hours of the day, however. So, Kylo starts to bring him things; scraps of silk, a charm made of fur, a seed with tiny barbs on its shell. Some yarn. A small lump of clay. He doesn’t know where Kylo gets these things. Kylo does not offer them in person, but Hux knows it must be him who leaves them on the table in Hux’s quarters. Kylo, who frequently ventures off-world. Kylo, whose palms are rough, and whose fingernails are ridged. Hux almost allows himself to look forward to these little things, something he can enjoy in the evening, in the way that most officers would treat themselves to a glass of wine. One such evening, it crosses his mind to leave a thank you note for Kylo. He doesn’t; there is no paper in his room. Paper, he remembers, is one of those obsolete relics from a different life. Hux says thank you in different ways; a nice dinner, a fancy hairbrush for Kylo’s unruly mane, a shy invitation to use Hux’s nice, personal shower with water that’s hot, not just lukewarm.
Kylo and Hux: are they circumcised or uncircumcised?
It would be interesting to how that would translate into the star wars universe since it’s a culturally-based thing on our planet. It might not even be something that is done at all or it could be connected to some other cultural things depending on the planets where humans/humanoids live. If we assume that the star wars universe is more progressive (at least from the civilizations we have seen), such as with the general gender equality among combatants portrayed in TFA, then that could translate to male genital mutilation also not being practiced. But just because one aspect of culture is more progressive, it does not mean everything is. So if the First Order was all anti-masturbation then that could be another factor, but that does not mean the elite class would be subject to the same repressive treatment as those who are being made into stormtroopers. Or perhaps they are? It’s anyone’s guess. And it probably wouldn’t exist at all with the New Republic/ Resistance. Unless some social tradition called for it- a lot like the widespread secular circumcision practiced in the United States. It would be interesting to actually ask some of the star wars writers about this.
For fun I will just guess and say Hux is and Kylo is not, which is likely the opposite for the actual actors if you are thinking more literally about what is under their costumes.
But consider this –
Hux not talking during sex at all because, if it’s good, he becomes a mess. And he slurs his words, and he stumbles, and the stutters. This normally controlled man, who is eloquent to a fault, and known for his speeches and careful choice of words, just losing his ability to speak properly.
So it’s mostly grunts. And moans. And the occasional sigh. And, maybe, Kylo’s name.
And, OMG, Kylo really enjoys getting Hux to come undone like this.
All I can think about is that interview with Domnhall Gleeson where he’s talking about this viciousness that General Hux has and how he’d fight dirty if put to it. But his entire appearance and demeanor in the film is so immaculately put together, that you can barely picture him getting his hands dirty. And then you have those couple of lines in movie novelization where Hux demands biological proof of the traitors’ demise, preferably a couple of heads on his desk. And how it unnerves the people following his orders.
Just imagine, if you will, Ren encountering this viciousness but not quite expecting it. At first thinking its for show or posturing, but then realizing Hux is cut from a very similar cloth to himself, loathe as he is to admit it. (Though Ren’s deal is more pure rage.) Imagine him being impressed, because he never thought Hux had it in him.
I love the idea of this kind of proper, militaristic man whose bloodlust is bursting the seams of that perfectly pressed uniform.
Imagine Ren being all too happy to indulge his call for ‘biological proof.’ I can just see Ren collecting the heads of their enemies, and dropping them on Hux’s desk like a cat leaving a particularly gruesome gift. And Hux, rather than being pissed that there’s semi-charred flesh all over his paperwork, is impressed. (Though he’d rather chew his own hands off than admit it.)
Since they’re not nice people, I kind of like the idea of their relationship being based on this mutual ferocity and viciousness.
I also like to imagine that Hux had a few ‘incidents’ in his rise to power, being underestimated by people vying for the same position and them sincerely regretting it. I’m picturing a kind of Hannibal Lecter quality in him.
(Also Domnhall Gleeson just suits being covered in blood, its a good look for him.)
Someone tell me if I’m getting ooc with all this.
Links to all my Kylo Ren/Ben Solo Meta, as requested :)
*A little note: if you plan on reading them, I strongly suggest going in the order I have them listed 🙂
Snoke’s influence on Ben from BIRTH
Snoke= Behind Ben’s obssession with Grandpa Vader
A Thorough Analysis of Ben’s Childhood– Part 1
A Thorough Analysis of Ben’s Childhood– Part 2
Kylo Ren’s Redemption Arc (AKA Ben Solo and the New Jedi Order)
dispatches from the dumpster 